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Coffee ! but how to grind it


#21

Confession time, I actually have three of them in different sizes, so that I am always covered whatever the requirements. The thing to know is that the quoted number of cups refers to espresso shots, rather than proper mugs of coffee. I drink my coffee in a mug. And my wine in a big glass…


#22

… And my wine in a big glass…

There’s another way?


#23

I’ve had a Mazzer for years and am thinking about a new grinder. The Niche looks interesting but for me has two drawbacks. Firstly I want the machine to measure the dose and, secondly, I want the coffee to go straight into the portafilter, rather than via a container.


#24

The niche was really designed as a single dosing grinder. Take a look at the Vario-W.

There’s a lot of research currently going on that suggests a container for a quick stir makes a massive difference in espresso extraction.


#25

I use an aeropress and V60… dependent on mood. Get my coffee from Pact Coffee, used to order beans, but my grinder broke (it was not expensive so I could have expected this would happen), so went back to ground coffee. This thread nudged me to look for a new grinder, so thanks for that. Definitely not paying £500 though. I also prefer a manual grinder, as @lapin_rouge says it does have a therapeutic effect.


#26

Whatever you use, you don’t need to grind it too fine though…


#27

Slightly shocked to see the humble Bialetti in conjunction with a good grinder!

I mean, I used to use the moka stovetops for years, but now they’re a nostalgia trip for rentals in civilised countries! You should get yourself a Gaggia Classic with a grinder like that :grinning:

No way would I grind by hand, personally. Way too much effort per shot, and a Hario at least can’t do it nearly fine enough for an espresso.


#28

3 days later, I am now the proud owner of a Hario medium coffee grinder - bought direct from manufacturer to avoid getting a knock-off copy (seems to be an occasional problem with Amazon)

Really well designed, great materials & finishes. It’s a simple thing, done VERY well. I’m very grateful to the good folk of the community for much advice.


#29

Good stuff, enjoy. But this is how it starts. Then you need decent scales to make sure you’re getting the right coffee to water ratio, and of course a thermometer to check the temperature’s right. Then you’ll get into v60 pourover for a more authentic expression of the bean (or whatever). Next thing you know you’re buying two of @JamesF’s niche coffee machines in case one stops working!


#30

buy three…just in case :wink:

and we thought buying wine was tortuous


#31

Sorry I can’t help with advice on coffee grinding etc., but as it’s related to the subject I would like to say how good it is living in Portugal for much of the year and being able to pop into a cafe and have an excellent expresso for only 60 centimes (50p) - and a pastry for the same price… My grandchildren find it hard to believe that for the price of a coffee in UK (around £2-£3) I could have a week’s holiday when I was their age.


#32

This thread has become somewhat hilarious, when viewed in the light of the recent one… ‘Is wine elitist?’

Who needs wine?


#33

Indeed, I guess I’ve ‘arrived’ as a Coffee Elitest! (feels rather good) - bear in mind however that my mug of elite coffee only costs around 20p.

Maybe it’s the law of diminishing returns. But the switch from ready- ground to grind-as-needed is well down on the curve - plenty of return in terms of flavour and aroma notes compared to previous. I guess it compares to using a decanter (I use TWS version) for wine - great improvement for not much outlay.


#34

That’s a bit like comparing €2 bottle of wine to a €20 one. £2 buys you a decent espresso from a speciality cafe in the UK. The average espresso in Portugal is vile low quality commodity coffee. There are speciality choices in Portugal where you will spend more but get a much better espresso, there’s also places in the UK that will sell you a vile espresso for £1.

https://europeancoffeetrip.com/?s=portugal


#35

Afraid I disagree with you, Aaronb! In my opinion expresso coffee in Portuguese cafes is usually as good as, and often better than, what you get in so-called ‘speciality’ cafes in UK.


#36

eww, id rather go without! And I love coffee more than wine.