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Reading is not just for Christmas



Mrs Joyce probably just said she had read it :wink:


Well I have started lets see if I finish, signed Magnus Magnusson


Erm… Absoutely not! :grimacing:
But I love the opaqueness of ‘I would do anything for love, but I won’t do that’, so I use it all the time. Hope I don’t have to pay the Loaf copyright fees…! :thinking:


Ha! Yes! As did his secretary- and Mr Lean Writing- Samuel Beckett, I’m sure!


Ha. Sorry to drag OT but I do find myself saying ‘2 out of 3 ain’t bad’ quite often (in context). Also not an ML fan.

Re books, currently loving In The Light Of What We Know by Zia Haider Rahman from a few years ago. Great writing, powerful stuff, possibly a bit pretentious but that’s ok with me.


I am going non-fiction on you all now. This is a short read, but I cannot recommend it more, it reminds me of Feynman:

And once you’ve enjoyed this one, then you will like this one even more (which is what I am reading now):


How’s this one? I am tempted to give it a try, having a 12 year old at home.


If you want to know more about the rise of post-truth and alternative facts, this one will bring you up to date. I finished it back in January in a couple of sittings.


Excellent read! I really enjoyed it! We covered some basic neuroscience during my counselling training, so not all of it was new to me - but some of her observations about the way the teenage brain is wired, and the way connections are being ‘pruned’ where they are not used were valuable. The experiments she describes are fascinating too!

I liked her empathy towards teenagers. They have such bad press, usually. Mine (16) is a delight, bar the occasional irrational behaviour…! :grinning:

The other day I picked her up from a party, and she proceeded to roll the window down and puke all over the side of the car. “You sort of expect these things will happen to me”, she said in a matter-of-fact way. I couldn’t argue with that assessment! :grimacing:


A moment of self-awareness and consideration of others, despite the drunken state, fair play to her :+1:


With children, I think there’s often an element of finally getting the adult we would like (and have put so much effort into over 18+ years), but with additional surprise elements that make them unique.
@Inbar I think your daughter was recognising the value of her upbringing at the same time as having an experimental ‘learning experience’.

I’m sure it’ll be fine - at least she came home with you!


I suspect you’re right. She’s quite sensible for a 16 year old.

Soon after said incident she remarked: “I don’t think you would have approved of the wine we drank, mum!”.
Another evening of Barefoot, then! :roll_eyes:


Hi @japcraw, just wondering what top-100 list you’re using - have you got a link to it?


I’m getting into the ‘Christmas reading’ mode already… in anticipation of 3 weeks off as of mid-December. So ordered two books I’ve been looking forward to reading for some time:

Nina Caplan’s ‘The Wandering Vine: Wine, the Romans and Me’

And ‘The Invention of Tradition’, edited by Eric Hobsbawm and Terence Ranger:

I am intrigued by its mixture of history and social/cultural criticism. Looking forward to starting both in the bleak midwinter :cloud_with_rain::snowflake: :snowman:


The idea of tradition being invented more recently than we think is interesting, and sometimes the converse is true also.

It is very relevant to bear in mind when we talk glibly about traditional styles in wine, and new trends


The book discussed here looks interesting


I am going to read this one again. I read it about 10 years ago, so don’t remember too much of it, except that it is about a millionaire who drinks away his fortune with fine wine…


I listened to it on Audible a year ago, I thought it was worth the time.


I’ve just finished Nina Caplan’s ‘The Wandering Vine’ and can’t recommend it highly enough. A really thoughtful, interesting and fun read, with a few nice mentions of The Wine Society.

I particularly liked this:

“… I open two of my father’s wines from Bandol in Provence, a Lafran-Veyrolles Bandol 2000 and a Domaine de Terrebrun 1990. Neither is remotely drinkable. They are old and irredeemably faded… So we drink the Wine Society’s Exhibition Shiraz 2010, made by Mount Langi Ghiran a couple hours west of Melbourne, and toast the Old World with wine from the New”

And this, which felt very pertinent to me as an immigrant:

“I realise that finding the soil that suits you best is important - more important, perhaps, than knowing where you came from”

On to my next reading adventure with The Discovery of France by Graham Robb:

Anybody else reading something interesting at the moment? Always looking for inspiration :slight_smile:


While not a read but telly I thought it should come into this thread. , being as it is literary.

I just watched ‘Seamus Heaney and the music of what happens’. A moving and thoughtful wander through his life with contributions from family and friends.

It is on iplayer here; https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000bxwv/seamus-heaney-and-the-music-of-what-happens